Jenny Lawson on What to Do When Nothing Is Okay
Simple, effective strategies for getting through hard days
During my recent guest-host stint on The Next Big Idea podcast, I had the pleasure of interviewing the wonderful Jenny Lawson, the bestselling author of a string of hilarious and absolutely fearless memoirs.




Her newest book, How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay, is her first foray into explicitly self-help terrain. We talked about why she made that shift, the tools and strategies she relies on when her brain isn’t cooperating, and why embarrassing stories are the best ones to share.
You can listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify (links below), and probably other places too; I’m just not super tech-savvy. Google it!
Happy listening,
Panio
P.S. Here’s a link to Jenny’s Author Insider questionnaire, which is also funny and brilliant. And if you don’t already follow her (you really should), you can sign up for her Substack here: Jenny Lawson (thebloggess)
